you know, certain actors i talked to just talked about how they learn things from the characters they played and like kind of in a profound way. in this movie more than any other i really did feel like i kind of got out of the way in the morning, and let him come over. let him, and it sounds very sort of actory but it's sort of how i experienced it charlie, i kind of walked away and let this guy take over, this guy pat. and every time i see him i just feel so much empathy. that's his bottom. we're watching this guy at a bottom. >> rose: but you believe that he got inside of you and that's the reason he was able to do this. >> i don't know what happened, you know. but i know that when i see that, i'm lucky and this guy that i care a lot about, this guy pat all the time. >> rose: you care about it because? >> because maybe i learned about him. he's i mean he's a guy that's just struggling to endure, to maintain and he just has no help.